Judith 1 Deborah 0

From the Sunday Star Times today

Police Minister Judith Collins has pledged to support a call for laws to prevent girls under 16 having abortions without their parents being told. Collins said she would support a private member’s bill requiring parents to be involved before a termination could take place.

…In 2004, Collins argued that suggestions her approach would see more terminations, and a rise in illegal backstreet abortions, was “just plain scaremongering”.

Exactly. In fact, the research shows the exact opposite happens. Teen pregnancy rates and teen abortion rates drop by 15% on average. A win-win situation.

“We constantly tell parents they should be more responsible for their children. “But if they don’t have all the information, what can they do?” In places where parental notification was mandatory, teenage abortions and pregnancies actually fell, she added. “No child should go through the trauma of abortion on their own.”

Well said Judith.

In contrast, Deborah Coddington says

We’re open about contraception, we have more sex education than philosophy lessons in schools, but we still have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the Western world. So why are we still so conservative about abortion? Let’s not pull any punches here. Too many unwanted, nuisance-factor babies are born. If they were loved and treasured, why are they admitted to Starship Hospital at the rate of one a week with non-accidental injuries?

So it’s only babies that are going to be abused that are aborted? Wow, thanks Deborah. I never knew that. But the most distrubing statement is

Pro-lifers have no right to ruin a young girl’s life and a foetus is just that. It can’t survive on its own so has no claim over the mother.

So Deborah, when does an unborn child gain rights not to be abused? 20 weeks? 30 weeks? in the birthing room?

Still, nothing surprises me from Deborah’s rants. During the Referendum on smacking, she said of people that supported the Referendum

Scratch their skins and would we find, lurking below, a secret desire to bring back the legal right to rape their spouses,

Thank goodness Deborah Coddington is a failed politician and Judith Collins is still a very good one 🙂

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6 comments for “Judith 1 Deborah 0

  1. Reni Haakma
    21 May 2011 at 1:40 pm

    Well done Judith Collins! Some long overdue common sense that Deborah Coddington wouldn’t understand. I’m sure Coddington would like more philosophy in schools as long as it agrees with hers. I believe Kiwis are fed up with politicians whose left leaning philosophy has taken precedence over people. As she was voted out as a politician, but still pushing her cause some would say she is an “unwanted nuisance”. She would be pleased that we don’t all agree with her beliefs on “unwanted nuicances”

  2. bob
    21 May 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Good on Collins for speaking against parental non-notification, but I note she backs away from putting up a Members Bill. Even if – as a Minister – she can’t, she could work with a backbench National MP to put a Bill up.

    I also note Judith says “No child should go through the trauma of abortion on their own.” Ummmm, no child should go through abortion full-stop, right Judith?

    Before congratulating the National party too much, we should recall they passed our Abortion law, and have never made efforts to repeal it.

  3. Massoud
    22 May 2011 at 1:21 am

    Let’s be brutally, and uncomfortably frank. How many of us secretly do think: abortion in society is not pleasant, but, thank God, that teenager/women got an abortion – she’s a hopeless case and her kids wouldn’t have a chance.

    Cold and callous? Maybe, but are you thinking that right now? Secretly? Glad it’s not your own? But will never admit it for the sake of your pious or caring “reputations.”

    Abortion is one of those issues where I think those that clamour the most loudly against it, would scurry off the quickest and have one for their child or themselves if faced with it practically rather than theoretically.Then, secretly, they would thank their God, that we have a society that allowed abortions.

    Many of the shrillist disclaimers against abortion are religionists of the Christian/Islamic creed. Both, how coincidentally, patriarchially framed and dominated by male Prophets. Ever wondered why conservative people, for all their ballyhoo about other “morality” issues like law and order, falling standards,etc, seem decidedly divided on getting rid of abortion for good? It is because they realise one day someone they love might have to fall back on the nefarious, but necessary, service that it is in our modern society.

    Abortion is a fact of life. Like prostitution, abortion is one of the oldest surviving practices of the human species. One I, as a male, am pleased I never have to face in all it’s horrible reality as many women have too through simply making a tiny mistake.

    As for Judith Collins being a very good politician – I suggest she is increasingly loving playing the role of being the darling of the law and order brigade. Her words, and her face, are getting harder and harder with each TV appearances. When a politician starts believing in their own brand of hype, you know they have lost the plot.

  4. Bob
    22 May 2011 at 1:54 am

    I find it fascinating that those that support abortion have already been born.

    As for your statment

    “Abortion is one of those issues where I think those that clamour the most loudly against it, would scurry off the quickest and have one for their child or themselves if faced with it practically rather than theoretically.Then, secretly, they would thank their God, that we have a society that allowed abortions.

    it’s completely unfounded, irrational, and a load of bollocks.

    But good to note that you’re monitoring evey tv appearance of Judith Collins. She has been consistent on this issue and deserves full credit for it

    Enjoy your life – and be thankful that your mother did not choose abortion.

  5. Sara Alexander
    22 May 2011 at 2:03 am

    Fortunately my courageous birth mother didn’t abort me; she gave birth to me and offered me up for adoption 57 years ago. A childless couple chose me and gave me a wonderful upbringing. In return I brought them joy and fulfillment which they otherwise believed they wouldn’t have had. I thank God that abortion wasn’t an option for my birth mother: and I thank God that with His forgiveness Deborah can find the peace and freedom from guilt she doesn’t know she needs. Today I have been blessed with 3 adult children and 5 grandchildren – not a nuisance in sight.

  6. Joy Huston
    23 May 2011 at 9:55 pm

    In recent years the daughter [that I took responsibility for during her pregnancy and then, by adoption, passed on to her new parents] found each other, and to my delight, I have now 5 more Grand children and to that daughter, she has siblings, and her children have a heap of new cousins they never knew of …………. Abortion was a choice available to me but I chose to take the responsibility to love and nurture a new life for her ‘chosen’ parents.
    Thank you Judith Collins ………

    I wish that people who think like and mouth off like Deborah Coddington would realize that ABORTION is the ULTIMATE ABUSE of our precious Children and one day we will all be accountable for our treatment of them ……….

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