Shock after counsellor approves underage relationship

ONE News 30 May 2012
The parents of an underage girl who was having sex with an older man were shocked when a CYF-approved counsellor encouraged their daughter’s relationship. Jade’s parents sought help from Child Youth and Family (CYF), after being referred by police, because they believed their 14-year-old daughter’s sexual relationship with the 20-year-old was harmful. The police case against the man went ahead and CYF suggested counselling for Jade. But the counsellor told Jade’s parents they should celebrate her happiness and said they should “be thrilled” their daughter had found love at such young age. The counsellor said it was fine even when the 14-year-old was involved in group sex with the 20-year-old and a work colleague of his. “We felt sure CYF would realise that this was crazy,” Jade’s father told TVNZ’s Close Up programme. However CYF backed the counsellor and helped Jade move out of her parent’s home for a month.

…With help from a school counsellor and Youthlaw, Jade then took her parents to court effectively to divorce them and gag both them and her two brothers. “We had to go through a lawyer every time we spoke to them, $1000 a time or whatever adds up,” Jade’s mother said. Because they kept trying to make contact with people connected with Jade, her parents got taken back to court and threatened with prison for breaking a temporary gagging order. “There were times I’d leave the office and go to a park and simply cry not knowing what was going on with my daughter,” Jade’s father said. And their distress was made worse when they saw pictures of Jade online during the time she was at school. Days before Jade’s 18th birthday the case was finally heard and the judge found no reason to silence her parents. “We won the court case but we lost our daughter,” Jade’s father said.

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10 comments for “Shock after counsellor approves underage relationship

  1. 30 May 2012 at 4:39 am

    Is this the state (Approved Councillor approving of Pedophilia? This is not Love it is Sexual Predication of a young vulnerable girl. Emotionally, socially and hormonally this young girls is vulnerable.
    Turned out police investigations led to six other young people who were being similarly exploited by these men.
    These men could have had HIV/AIDS or another STD all these girls could suffer for the rest of there life’s .

    Have we lost the Biblical Standard and now anything goes ? Where do we as a Society draw the line as to what is acceptable or not acceptable behaviour ?

    They say you can judge a country by how it treats it’s most vulnerable citizens ? These men got off, to offend again.
    Don’t our young people deserve better protection ?
    Are we becoming softened to this sort of Peadophila and Promiscuous behaviour by TV and in particular Teen Soaps?

  2. Chuck Bird
    30 May 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Leighton Smith is discussing this now on NewstalkZB

  3. margaret
    30 May 2012 at 9:31 pm

    G.K.Chesterton died in 1936, but he saw it coming….
    “When governments begin to educate children, social decline will follow and the whole of civilisation will unravel”

    It may be, that the worst sexual abuse is to be found in the sex education classes in schools.

  4. Chuck Bird
    31 May 2012 at 3:39 pm

    I heard Steve Taylor emailed Leighton Smith this link. This shows many disturbing facts about this story.

  5. SGP
    31 May 2012 at 6:08 pm

    Where did you find this quote Margaret?

  6. Sharon Abernethy
    5 June 2012 at 3:18 pm

    I’m extremely sadden to read this story.Not to mention a little angry.
    This young girl does not have the maturity to cope with the situation she has put herself in, & these adults are old enough to know better. They know exactly what they are doing. But also so does the young girl.
    As a parent of 4 teenage daughters I feel sickened to think that it is so easy for these situations to happen. There is NO protection anymore for them. And to top it all off learning that your daughter is participating in underage sex let alone group sex & as a parent wanting to protect them, to then find our hands are tied. Someone else has control of your daughter & as a parent we can do nothing. Our rights as parents are getting fewer and fewer and then society/councellers down the track say we as parents are to blame for how our children grow up into adults that course so much trouble with the law etc. In the Bible it states that we are to teach our children what is morally right and how to live so that they can be responsible adults when they leave home. Well why bother when you have so called professional councellers taking the child out of the home and letting them do what they want. All for love & sex & oh yeah a healthy relationship with older men.
    I wonder where this young girl will be in 5 years time. 10 years time. Where will the counceller be then? I’d hate to think. Very very sad situation for everyone. Daughter & Parents.

  7. Lorriane Cummins
    5 June 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Maybe I am thinking wrongly, however, in reading this article it is as if this counsellor is procuring these young girls (pimping them) for these adult males. For the Counsellor to say she took an instant dislike to this young girl’s father is NOT doing her job by bringing in her personal feelings about someone. She needs to be disbarred IMMEDIATELY and the parents need to take CYFS and her to court for alienation of affection of their daughter. I would be happy to contribute to their legal costs just to see justice done for these parents

  8. Margaret
    5 June 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Oh yes Lorriane, go for it, but the question is would the court have any more common sense than the counsellor…? It would seem that in CYFs we had bred a monster of immense proportions who doesn’t have to answer to ANYONE. Even the mention of the word terrifies us! Until we can change that I fear we will change nothing.

  9. RussF
    5 June 2012 at 8:23 pm

    I would like to know exactly where the PM and his Minister stand on this case, as they are our elected representatives in charge of the CYFS portfolio. Lorraine or any Legal expert out there, just whereabouts in current NZ statute is ‘alienation of affection of a child’ deemed to be either a criminal act or by what legal case law precedent does it give rise to grounds for civil suit against the government, their agencies and employees? If our elected officials will not be drawn to enforcing the legal will of the majority then perhaps they need to be taken down where it hurts the most – in their collective pockets.

  10. Dave
    11 June 2012 at 3:24 am

    Hi RussF
    I am not a lawyer, I am the father of the girl in question. Regarding the law, here are some places to start: Sec 5(a), Sec 5(b), Sec 5(c) and Sec 5(d) of the Care of Children Act 2004; Articles 3, 5, 16, 18, 19, 34 and 39 of UNCROC, as well as the preamble to UNCROC. In addition to Acts of parliament and International Conventions, there is also growing case history obliging NZ courts to act against those alienating children from their family, such as Jones v Skelton [2007].
    Sadly however when the alienation is perpetrated by a State agent, the courts ignore it even though, in our gagging case the judge accepted that significant alienation has occurred. It is very difficult if not impossible to hold a State agent accountable to the law in NZ.
    We too would like to know where the PM and his Ministers stand, we have written to them various times over the past few years but never get any substantial reply.
    In 2005, Time magazine wrote that NZ is soft on paedophiles – sadly they are correct. We hope that one day the international spotlight will shine on these atrocities, and then perhaps there will be action.

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