SlutWalks send ‘mixed message’

From ONE News

Organisers of ‘SlutWalks’ planned for Wellington and Auckland tomorrow are being accused of sending the wrong message. Wellington and Auckland rape crisis groups will be joining hundreds of other skimpily clad people to protest comments made by a Toronto police officer to a group of university students in January. Constable Michael Sanguinetti told students that women should avoid dressing like “sluts” to avoid being raped, the Guardian reported. He later apologised. New Zealand SlutWalk organisers Ruth Amato and Angela Smith say the message is about putting the blame back on the perpetrator, not the victim.

…Bob McCoskrie from Family First said he agrees so-called ‘slutty’ clothing is no excuse for rape. But he still thinks women need to consider how they dress. “We need to understand a male has testosterone. They’re turned on by the visual. Images are important – that’s why the porn industry does so well,” he said. “Marching for the right to be called a slut? Just doesn’t sit right.”

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10 comments for “SlutWalks send ‘mixed message’

  1. RC
    24 June 2011 at 8:43 pm

    I find it hard to believe just how stupid these women are. They flaunt themselves then wonder why some men take the bait.

    It is exactly as you say Bob. Pornography works on men because of the strong visual factors. If these dumbos cannot understand it from experience (their not being men), perhaps they could just stop and think for a moment and consider that perhaps you are actually telling them something that really is true.

    On the other hand, they are probably ideologues who have no interest in anything other then their own selfish right to flaunt themselves.

  2. David Favel
    27 June 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Umm, no. The protest was about the comments of a Canadian cop who said that if women don’t wish to be raped, then don’t dress like sluts”.
    The issue here is that rape is instigated by scumbags, whether you are dressed like a saint or a sinner. Rape is not about sex, it is about power over the victem.
    It is interesting to note the total lack of rape incidents in nudist colonies.
    By the way pornography works on women as well as men.

  3. Bob
    27 June 2011 at 3:56 pm

    Could you provide the link to the peer-reviewed research on rape incidents in nudist colonies?

    I won’t hold my breath 🙂

  4. Margaret
    27 June 2011 at 7:36 pm

    I thought you put it very well Bob. Absolutely no excuse for rape. However it seems wise to not to make a situation more vulnerable. On a much less serious note there’s no excuse for stealing but we don’t leave cars unlocked do we? There is no excuse for home invasion but we take reasonable precaution to protect ourselves when we go to bed at night like locking up. It seems pretty sensible to take whatever precaution seems prudent to try and prevent unpleasant things happening to one. The fact is the perpetrators are people who basicly don’t care a fig whether you or I believe there is no excuse for rape or any other crime, or, they are so out of their minds there’s no rationale anyway.

  5. Pauline
    28 June 2011 at 1:48 am

    I totally agree with you Margaret saying there is no excuse for stealing but we don’t leave our cars or houses unlocked, inviting those who are ‘tempted in that area’ to help themselves. How true is that statement! If you wear a code of dress that is showing off your body in a sexual manner, is that not a kind of advertisement, sending a message to the opposition sex to look at you in a provocative manner. I feel really sad for those ladies who were on that march and behind organising such an event. How disillusioned they must be, looking for acceptance and love in all the wrong ways.

  6. Alan George
    28 June 2011 at 10:02 pm

    You presentation was very good John. Thank you so much.
    Some thoughts for other readers
    – 70% of our communication is non-verbal, eg the way we dress so why dress that way?
    – most rape involves people who know each other, often family, so dress is not the cause.
    – I think I have heard that rape is about power for the perpetrator in some cases
    – I think there is a lot of ‘power issues’ in sex and provocative dress is part of that. I have the power to turn you on and then withhold. That is part of development for young girls. Provacative dress is about my power to play with your feelings and eyes. That’s not helpful (I have no peer reviewed publications or research on this but it is the only explaination I have for wanting to present in that way)
    Again – you did an excellent job, thanks

  7. Bruce
    30 June 2011 at 3:01 am

    What devilish confusion these ill-lead women are causing. They want to dress and deport themselves like sluts yet be treated like duchesses. Not a hope! If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it should be no surprise for it to be seen as a duck. If it walks like a slut and talks like a slut it will be seen as a slut.

    A duchess behaves as a lady and thus demands to be treated as a lady, and men respond to this. Women control the behavior of men simply by demanding better behavior of those seeking their company.

  8. Ruth
    5 July 2011 at 2:00 am

    If these women get their way (ie, they effect a change in society to the extent that even a woman strolling around in a bikini would attract no sexual attention), it will mean that the plain unadorned body of a woman has become BORING.

    What a tragic triumph that would be for the one who wants only to steal, kill, and destroy.

  9. Sexybeachnews
    1 September 2012 at 10:29 pm

    Less than 8% of the rapes committed over the last 15 years in America involved total strangers. I imagine that it’s very similar in Canada. This almost completely rules out sudden lust as a reason for rape. The truth is that lust is completely absent from all rapes as rape is all about control & torture. Rapists don’t go after slutty women since they aren’t as likely to be as terrified & this terror is truly what the rapist is after. Statistically speaking you are more likely to get raped by a priest or a cop than you are from someone in a nudist resort or beach. Only evil people blame victims.

  10. teari mern
    3 September 2012 at 2:49 am

    Are you all total idiots?
    You totally contradict your own words, each and everyone one of you.

    Rape is Rape is Rape, no matter what the person is wearing, it is non consentual sexual intercourse, it is violation of the body, mind and soul, it is an act of power and lack of self control on the RAPISTS behalf.

    I am astounded by the total lack of insight and humanity that is shown by the people in te replies, and in the original post. Let us hope your “era” of people are soon no longer able to communicate your narrow minded and disgusting opinoins to people who might percieve them as correct.

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